Comments on: Riders air grievances about T-Third problems, Caltrain access http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/ A transit riders' association for San Francisco Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:09:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Light Rail SMACKDOWN: Dublin’s LUAS vs. SF MUNI’s T-Third « blog http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-488 Light Rail SMACKDOWN: Dublin’s LUAS vs. SF MUNI’s T-Third « blog Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:27:17 +0000 http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-488 [...] Overwhelmingly negative. City residents complain. And complain. It really [...] […] Overwhelmingly negative. City residents complain. And complain. It really […]

]]> By: Ridiculous sums of federal capital money encourage foolish transit projects. « blog http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-334 Ridiculous sums of federal capital money encourage foolish transit projects. « blog Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:43:29 +0000 http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-334 [...] A: San Francisco’s T-Third line. At a capital cost of nearly $1 billion, this abomination of low-speed transit stupidity reminds [...] […] A: San Francisco’s T-Third line. At a capital cost of nearly $1 billion, this abomination of low-speed transit stupidity reminds […]

]]> By: Rescue Muni » Blog Archive » Service changes coming to N, J, T, other lines June 30 http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-41 Rescue Muni » Blog Archive » Service changes coming to N, J, T, other lines June 30 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:07:04 +0000 http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-41 [...] service changes on June 30 to improve access to downtown and Caltrain. This was in part due to the public feedback on the T-Third’s troubled start of service as well as the discontinuance of the 15-Third north of Market Street. (Chronicle report [...] […] service changes on June 30 to improve access to downtown and Caltrain. This was in part due to the public feedback on the T-Third’s troubled start of service as well as the discontinuance of the 15-Third north of Market Street. (Chronicle report […]

]]> By: nevasha http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-40 nevasha Tue, 29 May 2007 01:08:00 +0000 http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-40 You know this was billed as "come and have a conversation". This was anything but that. I did miss the opener for the meeting, but the rest was folks like myself frustrated at how is it that MUNI can't keep a schedule as far as the trams are concerned in particular the N and now T, J lines are concerned. Sure we had so called experts in Transportation planning and management, however a 5 year old with Lego set could have figured out the problems that would be caused at the 4th st intersection. A half decent network engineer or someone who has completed freshmen class in queueing theory would have told you not to have 2 platforms right after the 4th St intersection. Infact having a single platform on 4th & King before the 4th St intersection would have been more efficient. Imagine the savings muni would have had in having to construct and maintain 2. platforms. Instead we now have at least 5-6 Traffic wardens present in the monring and evenings, not to mention some supervisor type with his truck parked between the two Muni rails just by the 4th st intersection. Only to further make things worse then better. Mr Ford promised to have preliminary answer within a week, that will have been 2 weeks ago come tomorrow. Sure they collected email addresses, but I've not heard a peep. Has anyone! Really there ought to be a train that misses out on the ball park stop and expresses out to Caltrain and Bayshore. Then there ought to be a train that makes the ball park and back. Sure trains are able to reverse and flip to outbound from being inbound around the ball park. I use the CalTrain and they are pretty good in being able to keep a schedule, where as MUNI doesn't even publish a schedule on any platform or tram. My thinking is turn MUNI over to CalTrain folks to manage as they know how to. Barring this lets outsource it to India, seeing that with some 60 year old trains they manage to have trains running every 3 minutes through Mumbai train station. Going by my telephone support line they are at least courteous and helpful at worst of times. I have no doubt in my mind that things can only get better in this area by change in leadership, as the worker bees take their cue from the management style that they experience. You know this was billed as “come and have a conversation”. This was anything but that. I did miss the opener for the meeting, but the rest was folks like myself frustrated at how is it that MUNI can’t keep a schedule as far as the trams are concerned in particular the N and now T, J lines are concerned.

Sure we had so called experts in Transportation planning and management, however a 5 year old with Lego set could have figured out the problems that would be caused at the 4th st intersection. A half decent network engineer or someone who has completed freshmen class in queueing theory would have told you not to have 2 platforms right after the 4th St intersection. Infact having a single platform on 4th & King before the 4th St intersection would have been more efficient. Imagine the savings muni would have had in having to construct and maintain 2. platforms. Instead we now have at least 5-6 Traffic wardens present in the monring and evenings, not to mention some supervisor type with his truck parked between the two Muni rails just by the 4th st intersection. Only to further make things worse then better.

Mr Ford promised to have preliminary answer within a week, that will have been 2 weeks ago come tomorrow. Sure they collected email addresses, but I’ve not heard a peep. Has anyone!

Really there ought to be a train that misses out on the ball park stop and expresses out to Caltrain and Bayshore. Then there ought to be a train that makes the ball park and back. Sure trains are able to reverse and flip to outbound from being inbound around the ball park.

I use the CalTrain and they are pretty good in being able to keep a schedule, where as MUNI doesn’t even publish a schedule on any platform or tram. My thinking is turn MUNI over to CalTrain folks to manage as they know how to. Barring this lets outsource it to India, seeing that with some 60 year old trains they manage to have trains running every 3 minutes through Mumbai train station. Going by my telephone support line they are at least courteous and helpful at worst of times. I have no doubt in my mind that things can only get better in this area by change in leadership, as the worker bees take their cue from the management style that they experience.

]]> By: svetcov http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-37 svetcov Thu, 17 May 2007 17:25:50 +0000 http://www.rescuemuni.org/2007/05/17/riders-air-grievances-about-t-third-problems-caltrain-access/#comment-37 Great summary, thanks for being there to support all of the frustrated Muni riders who try (with various levels of success) to best use the T, J, 10, 30, 45, 80X, 81X, and 82X. Here are some links to print media of the event: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/17/BAG09PS7TA61.DTL&hw=muni&sn=001&sc=1000 http://www.examiner.com/a-732893~Commuters_sound_off_about_Muni_changes.html Great summary, thanks for being there to support all of the frustrated Muni riders who try (with various levels of success) to best use the T, J, 10, 30, 45, 80X, 81X, and 82X. Here are some links to print media of the event:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/17/BAG09PS7TA61.DTL&hw=muni&sn=001&sc=1000

http://www.examiner.com/a-732893~Commuters_sound_off_about_Muni_changes.html

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