Comments on: Streetsblog: don’t forget stop consolidation

By: david vartanoff

david vartanoff — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:52:36 +0000

surcharging Exp/LTD service is not only inequitable, its uneconomic. Exp/Ltd buses will move riders faster thus costing less driver wage time. We want to encourage riders to use them.

By: Don

Don — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:41:59 +0000

There are some lines or some parts of lines where consolidation makes sense. More extensive use of Expresses and Limited’s also makes sense. Make Muni faster and it will attract more who might otherwise use a car. I also think Muni should charge a premium fare for Express and Limited’s.

By: david vartanoff

david vartanoff — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:36:41 +0000

Well, not ALL of we. Stop consolidation is a false solution to the real problems. First, in dense ‘hoods, the Mission, Tenderloin for instance, the actual rider counts boarding/alighting at closely spaced stops are high. Second, improving the throughput for the longer distance rider is more easily accomplished by running Expresses/Limiteds making only the major stops. This is clearly demonstrated all across the transit industry whether rail or rubber tire. On another blog someone cites two stops within a single block–each one is immediately adjacent a transfer point for a transverse route!